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@ DrPhil, I understand your position on Devil's advocate, but earlier in this thread it started to get a little personal and contentious so I resolved not place my personal opinions and just to throw things out there for thought.

@ MysticCat, my responses didn't miss the point, you missed one key statement in my initial argument, which was , "One could argue..." in that respect I got your point, which was the application, but the theory based on how the state operate, you could actually and easily transition from marriage being a religious standard in the United States, to a civil standard just by having the states actually step up and offer MORE options outside of religion. There isn't any new law that needs to be created, nor societal upheaval that needs to be enforced. Just tell people that the reality per recognition by the state, all marriages are pretty much civil unions. We just chose to be lazy and let the religious folks handle it.

@ overall, as for the second conversation I was having, I really wasn't caring about the financial aspects which is why I constantly said in my responses somebody who is more opinionated could do it better...and Fox News. LOL

Let me add because I don't want anything to be taken out of context.

I'm not trying to start any beefs, and I don't take anything said back to me personally, it happens.