@dekeguy, one of my boyfriends is of the more traditional bent as well when it comes to dating. He's also older and I wonder if that has something to do with it. (Not knowing how old you are
) Now, that said, we've gone on less formal dates, but he has a very formal mindset about some things.
However things that would turn me off would include even being offered to order for me. Having the capacity to speak for myself, I'm quite comfortable doing so. The only reason I'd want someone else to order for me would be because I don't speak the language. And I know drinking is part of most people's social lives, but drinks and wine wouldn't do anything for me. But then, you're not trying to date me
Just sharing my thoughts.