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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06
^^^I've seen articles in a couple of different sorority magazines (ours, Tri Delta, KKG and another I can't recall) about the changing demographics of recruitment at many schools and discussing the fact that the average PNM at many schools isn't an 18-year-old freshman. It's something that many groups recognize.
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Fair enough, not something i've seen discussed so much, but also not necessarily comparable to a prohibition on accepting seniors, or a disinclination to for any reason. Are such articles coming along with lowered pressure or reprioritized pressure about numbers at collegiate chapters, I wonder?
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Originally Posted by 33girl
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To ensure the continued strength of NPC, considering possible growth through nontraditional means
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I don't see that as necessarily referring to nontraditional students. But perhaps someone who was there could say.
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Let's get off this "protected class" garbage - and just say it is stupid to say "you are not allowed to take a senior" because at some point it may bite you in the ass. I guarantee you if Selena Gomez or any of those chickie-babes went through rush as a senior, everyone would be falling themselves to bid her.
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Chickie babes? WTF?
Protected class is important if you're talking lawsuits, which while I specifically said the word, you were hinting at the trouble a chapter could get into.
And even if some celebrity was rushing as a senior, I'm sure a 'no seniors ever' rule would get broken for that and then never broken again. Finding special circumstances is again, a terrible way to discuss a general rule.
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Absolutes of any kind with regard to member selection (other than being a girl or having a minimum GPA) are dumb and dangerous to implement because they contradict the fact that much of member selection is intangible. If it gets around that ABC is FORBIDDEN (there's a big difference between forbidding something and it just not happening) to bid seniors, this or that major, or anything else, it'll call into question what their exact requirements are. Basically I'm saying - if you're going to put one facet out thee, be prepared to be asked to put it ALL out there.
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I'm laughing that absolutes are DUMB AND DANGEROUS except when it's a minimum GPA. Amazingly our chapters manage to have minimum GPAs without revealing their MS and gee somehow I bet they can have absolute NO SENIORS rules without ever revealing their MS, nor are they probably going around campus and saying 'NO SENIORS.' Because seniors get bids all the time in every other chapter, amirite?
Where the hell do you get Dangerous? If you're not wanting to talk about protected classes and minorities and that 'garbage' then you're probably not talking about lawsuits.
So, Top Tier sorority ABC (tm) gets a rep for banning seniors and their campus reputation is ruined? Bullshit. Groups and chapters have their own MS, always have, and a senior has, in general, a much lower chance of membership in NPC groups. Whether a rule is explicit, implicit or enforced by the advisors without the actives even being aware of it, it's their MS and no matter how unfair it is, it's not dangerous even if you think it's dumb.
And with housing requirements in particular, I'd argue that it's not necessarily dumb either.