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Old 06-03-2011, 11:56 AM
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On the other hand, I have about 5 colleagues ages 35-60 yo who have significant others, and a few of them have children together, that they've lived with for 10+ years. These people never intended to get married and they haven't waivered.
This is something I learned a long time ago - that when both people want the exact same thing out of a relationship (be that marriage, babies, cohabiting, or just some sexy fun times) it will be full of awesome. The non-awesomeness comes when the two people aren't on the same page and can't talk it out to get there/don't want to try to get there.

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Since we're having so much fun around here, I'll just leave this here.
Yay, yay, yay! A chance for me to quote from Elsa Maxwell's Etiquette Book, copyright 1951.

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Whatever stone adorns it, an engagement ring should be a matter of pleasure and pride. Those who are socially insecure will feel they MUST have a diamond. Those who are true individuals will wear the ring they prefer and can afford. Which reminds me of a charming English friend. She chose to have her fiance present her with a jade necklace rather than an engagment ring. "I love jade..." she told me when I admired her necklace, "...its color and the delicate carving to which it lends itself. Diamonds I do not especially admire. I often think how, if diamonds were as plentiful as pebbles on a beach and no more valuable, most people would kick them aside. It would be only those who really find beauty in diamonds, as I find beauty in jade, who would stoop to pick them up."

All of which is true. We are mightily influenced by the value the world puts upon things. And this does us no particular harm - unless we become such slaves to worldly values that we lose, first, our perspective and then our happiness.
A friend's woman apparently bitched about the first ring he gave her and had him go back and get a bigger one. Not coincidentally they're probably getting married in Vegas because no one can stand her/wants to come to the wedding.
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