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Originally Posted by aephi alum
Honestly, it's not that difficult to get roof access. I will take my own campus as a prime example. MIT has a long-standing tradition of hacking, which comes in two aspects: the more public aspect of doing stunts like putting campus police cars on top of the Great Dome, and the more private aspect of just plain getting into spaces people aren't supposed to get into (which includes roofs, steam tunnels, abandoned elevator shafts, etc.) Incoming freshmen can participate in "Orange Tours" where they are taken into some of these forbidden areas with the assistance of experienced guides. (And, yes, you can be arrested if found in a forbidden area. MIT CPs aren't just rent-a-cops - they have to serve on the police force of an actual town or city before being hired, and they have the authority to arrest people.)
But I digress.
I would imagine that, after the "cocksman" email, the national officers of the fraternity felt they had to make an example of the brother "doing the deed" in a public place where he and his partner were easily caught on camera and he was so easily identifiable. People do stupid things when they get drunk (has it been established that either or both of them was drunk?). There's a certain thrill in gaining access to somewhere you shouldn't be, and I imagine that having sex in said place would be icing on the cake.
IMO, they also should have expelled (or at least reprimanded) the originator of the "cocksman" email (assuming they are not one and the same). I've read the full text of the email, and it was disgusting, to say the least.
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I'm just thinking of Los Angeles being in California with a very active legal system, and that access turning into a law suit or a tort for not preventing (or having a notification system if the door is opened) access to a rooftop. This whole situation is an attractive nuisance in more way than one.
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Originally Posted by SC2013
The email guy and the rooftop guy are not one and the same.
It's funny though. Kappa Sig in general is a pretty tame house. The email guy apparently transferred in from a rowdier chapter that's gotten in trouble in the past. Generally our chapter--and I can say this lovingly as a friend who's an officer in the house said so himself--is borderline nerdy. It's somewhat amusing that our chapter of Kappa Sig has become the infamously "fratty" house of the west coast, when there are many other frats on the Row which probably more accurately depict the kind of lifestyle the email depicts. I guess the other frats just don't degrade women in public or on the Internet, but it's still definitely there, and much worse.
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Individuals in and out of fraternities do it, they just haven't been caught or it hasn't gone public yet. The unfortunate thing about these incidents is that the back lash is so much worse and often goes too far, punishing people who haven't done this or have handled the one member here or there who is out of line with the rest. I know a lot of people cannot have their minds changed, nor does having a thought police force work, but getting people to check public behavior that exposes a whole system and group of people not involved in the problem is where it needs to start. That may leave chapters with kicking people out as their only option, which can be unfortunate but the best prevention and cure.