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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
We may be operating with different definitions of guilt. I think you are leaning more towards a definition for what I would label shame, which is a horse of a different colour. Guilt in and of itself is not a good thing, but as a motivating force - something which causes you to examine your actions - it is. Guilt implies a knowledge of right and wrong. Although I realize it is now quite the fashion to be a moral relativist, I'd argue that losing the perspective of right/wrong that leads to the kind of guilt I'm discussing has resulted in far more evil than the occasional misplaced guilt.
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This is a very good distinction to make. I think that for many, guilt = guilt trip.
And I'm trying not feel itchy palms when you talk to Vito about ordering a BDW. I . . . don't . . . need . . . more . . . books.
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Originally Posted by aephi alum
Interesting. This is the first I've learned of a new Roman Catholic liturgy. The new English does seem closer to the original Latin. There will be resistance, of course - my father has told me of his own reluctance to embrace the Mass said in the vernacular as opposed to Latin (he was about my age when that switchover took place).
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I'm reminded of the story I heard JRR Tolkien's grandson tell of when he attended a Mass with his grandfather. It was soon after Vatican II, and he was mortified that his grandfather insisted on making all of the responses loudly and in Latin.
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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito
Though one thing I really wish was for the Liturgical language to return to Greek. That makes the most sense to me personally.
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Kyrie eleison.
Christe eleison.
Kyrie eleison. 
(Or try a Greek Orthodox church.)