Quote:
Originally Posted by madoug
Wow, what a way to highjack a thread!
|
What, appropriate-for-public discussions of ritual in a ritual celebration thread? I've seen
much bigger highjacks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BraveMaroon
What I think is amazing about Greek Ritual in general is the relatively young age of the authors.
These were college-aged men and women who put together "the total package", while they were full-time students.
|
For some orgs, but not for all. Off the top of my head, I can think of a number of organizations who publicly credit adult authors of their rituals. I can think of others who publicly acknowledge changes (by national governing bodies) to their rituals over the years.
Just another reminder that we're all different.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Yes. I am saying that the organizations and their values must stand above the words themselves, and that an over-emphasis on the words makes a lot of people uncomfortable, myself included.
To take an example that I can freely talk about, we have an open creed that references god. Does that mean non-Christians are unwelcome in the organization? How about atheists and agnostics? The public statement on the matter is that we welcome women of all beliefs, but the creed remains unchanged as a historical link to our founders. Well, that's fine, but then it wouldn't make sense to have a week devoted to living the creed.
|
That helps me understand better what you're saying and where you're coming from. Thanks.
My response, pertinent to my experience in my fraternity only, would be that when I talk about "celebrating the ritual," I primarily mean celebrating the values, not the words themselves, though for me words help convey the values. My other response would be that I have not encountered anyone in my organization who has expressed concerns like the ones you have. As Dr Phil (whose violins I choose to ignore
) said, this seems to be another instance of "speak for your own ritual."