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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter
Should the same go for the hazing at The Citadel and VMI although these are "Military Schools"? Should they get a pass.
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I think that requires being able to distinguish hazing, and other seemingly unecessary rites of passage, from official training procedures. Hazing (in the literal sense used by anti-hazing policies and laws) shouldn't be what prepares these women and men for military service and combat.
However, if the Citadel and VMI have policies and procedures that classify some of these things as nonhazing, that's when we get into the more subjective nature of "hazing." If it isn't defined as hazing, it isn't technically hazing regardless of personal opinions on the matter.
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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter
Not so sure about ROTC as I don't really know enough about their ties to the Armed Forces and what these ties/requirements, if there are any, entail.
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If I recall correctly, students (most? all? some? the ones on ROTC scholarship?) in ROTC have a couple of years of military service after graduation. This is how the government gets back their investment on these students. At least, that's how it was in the 1990s at the universities that I was familiar with.