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Old 11-05-2010, 10:26 AM
Elephant Walk Elephant Walk is offline
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Originally Posted by AGDee View Post
You forgot about the two kids.
Two kids are irrelevant.

If you're throwing in cost factors that have to do with irresponsibility, you mind as well throw in someone who racked up thousands of dollars of debt too in your little idea.

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You're talking about a very young person
Not really.

I'm talking about a single person. The costs would be the same for any single person except for perhaps 50 to a hundred more in healthcare a month.

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You are living in a bubble.
And you are living in a shitty state.

I'm not denying anything about other states. Costs are higher, I'm sure. But I showed how it 9$ can be done in Arkansas which was the state I was referring to when saying that 9$ can be easy to live on. That might not be the same elsewhere, but my experience shows that the government is usually the one who removes the cheap living from others.

For example zoning regulations in Cleveland, driving up the cost of rent/price of doing business. In places where the government is removed from daily life, you'll usually see cheaper rents and a greater ability to live on 9$ an hour. This is where the argument comes full circle. I want to remove the things that your leaders have put into place which unintentionally hurt the poor consistently. You seek to keep them in place. The Michigan government has consistently voted towards economic statism which generally makes it quite difficult to help the poor. Your government has made it impossible to live. Not industries offering 9$ an hour. Your government.
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