[Chocoholic]

Dear lord why did you screw with the font.

I like a larger font so I don't have to sit on top of my laptop just to see... I break so many that way. lol

In this paragraph you have assumed that a)someone might consider those videos respectful, b) it's natural to compare that to this situation, c) that I've never viewed those videos and d) that if I did see those videos, I'd agree with you. Sorry. You're wrong on all 4 counts.

I was responding to a comment you made earlier; essentially, respect should be given to all prisoners. And in a perfect world that would happen – however, we don’t live in a perfect world. We could give Islamic prisoners the key to Emerald City, and the outcome won’t change - militant beheadings shall continue as justifiable. Islamic militants need rehab and education, not candy and flowers.

Suicide bombings - specifically prohibited by Islam, politically motivated with religion mostly serving as the rallying cry.

Specifically prohibited by Islam, care to cite your source?

Human Shields - Military/political tactic - used by non-Muslims

Red herring. Specifically used by muslims in Gaza knowing the IDF wouldn’t shoot at children.

Stoning/Honor Killings - Something that is in the Hebrew/Christian scriptures too (and was done, frequently), currently in place and enforced more by cultural forces than purely religious ones. That is, not ever Muslim country or family would even consider the idea, but residents of and immigrants from certain countries see it as normal. It was happening there before Islam got there.

Yes and this archaic practice is still ONLY in use by those in Muslim countries or where Muslims are practicing Shaira Law - like the US and UK. Google honor killings.

"Mother's strapping bombs on their babies" - this isn't a few radicals? Really?

One mother is more than enough and imo, has no business having children. It’s child abuse. In this country that woman would lose her children and most likely prosecuted for child endangerment.

Those people see it as their only method of fighting since they don't have armies.

They "don't have" armies?!? Did I read that correctly? Regardless, of what you think of their armies - they have armies. You should really take a trip... I bet you think that Palestinians are living in tents, with nothing; not even running water, right?

Individuals might be religiously motivated but that doesn't make them representatives of Islam any more than abortion doctor killers are representative of Christianity.

More red herrings. One lone nut job vs. nut jobs from the fastest growing religion in the US (and worldwide) – exponentially increases the number of nut jobs. Period.

Some.. So SOME radicals
Out of over 1 billion Muslims, you don't think that this is a small percentage?

Not when their respective governments embrace the doctrine, i.e., Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia, now you have an entire country of wahhabism acceptance/adherence. No religious freedom there.

And just like a literal interpretation of the Bible is ineffective and would allow you to own slaves, forbid you from wearing mixed fabrics, stone women for adultery if she was raped in a city and didn't cry out loud enough (but not in the country where they couldn't hear her), and tell you the Earth was only several thousand years old, a literal interpretation of the Koran is not particularly a valid one.

Once again, you fail to acknowledge that the bible doesn't make the laws of this country. Most acknowledge it as a moral code written two-thousand years ago. You certainly wouldn't walk into family court in this country argue one party committed adultry, file a motion for contempt and hope the court orders they be stoned to death. The difference being is that Islamic law is a comprehensive system covering the relationship with allah, family, money, society and country - given and governed by allah.

Wahhabism is fairly extreme as far as beliefs go, and one that persecutes women, for example. However, Saudi Arabia doesn't have some of the strife of other countries because of the wealth and culture of the country itself- they will always have religious "tourism" money even if the oil runs out - not because of its brand of Islam.

You’re kidding right? It’s evident to me you know nothing of Sharia Law and the oppressive nature of wahhabi – Saudi women cannot vote, be educated like their male counterparts, they can’t drive, they have to have a familial/guardian male with them at all times, they’ve covered from head to toe in njib and female children are married off. Women cannot chose who they'll marry. Saudi Arabia is globally ranked as 130th out of 136th counties in terms of human rights violations. If you don’t see that as strife against women – I don’t think we can continue this conversation. Please read on. http://www.islamfortoday.com/ummzaid06.htm

Bin Ladin is actually pissed off at the Saudis for allowing Americans in. There's a reason he's not living there despite that being his country of origin. So you think that if the Saudi government specifically condemned his "message" we'd capture him tomorrow?

Is that what you understood from my post?

Evil people use religion, like they use any belief system, to justify their acts and to try to get others to follow them.

Ah, so you feel Islam is evil.

And find an unbiased source for a video next time if you want me to watch it.

LOL! It was a video made by an Arab Christian!

Right, if we're following my point that some Christians only support Israel so they can make Jesus come again, they wouldn't want to kill the Jews, they just want the Jews to kill the Muslims and rebuild the Temple so big JC will come back and send the Jews to hell for not being Christians.

I’m not buying that nonsense.

Also, you don't think there are Palestinian Christians who have said that? Or are you conflating Arabs and Muslims again? Perhaps other Christians haven't said that in Israel because they aren't the ones being killed in return.

I conflated no such thing. There are Mizrahim (Jews kicked out of Arab countries), Christian Arabs etc –

(Also, pretty much every "the Jews run Hollywood/Washington/the world" anti-Semitic rambling from the US has been said by a Christian IME)

Yes, I generally glean that kind of information from “Stormfront” …

Bad logic. If my tax money bought those 300 planes over there, we could easily buy them over here instead.

LOL! Yes, because your contribution has such military strategic value… Just how large is your yard and where exactly is it.

Assuming that those companies would go out of business because we stopped giving Israel aid is some leap. Your claim was that we're giving Israel money and they're just spending it on American things.

I’m sorry that’s how you interpreted my comments and that you’re not familiar with foreign aid in the ME – most clamor about how their tax dollars are given just to Israel, when they know nothing about the strings attached and the quid pro quo of these agreements and the congressional approval of said deals. Egypt has no strings attached, theirs is strictly economic aid. But I did hear that the US will start selling Egypt and the Saudis military weaponry, planes etc. It’s nice to know we still make something…

The "crazies" will twist whatever you do into supporting their worldview. So you do the right thing no matter what (build Park51 in NYC, treat all prisoners with respect, treat all humans with respect, and so on) and then you haven't let terrorism compromise your values.

Park51 is entirely separate argument – one I don’t oppose due to the first amendment argument. But I’d hate to see some other nutjob blow that thing up and harm innocent NY’ers again, in the process.

Which means you win

I'm somewhat amused by this remark. There's a certain idealistic naiviete to it. So you both maintain you both have won?