The reason for my responses are due to the fact that the probate show was our official introduction to the campus and to the general public. So in a public forum like this one, I did not believe that I was excepted to give the date of initiation (to the question of crossing date) because of the exclusive nature of that ceremony. I was under the impression that it's not discussed. It could just be my naivity. But I'm always open and eager to learn new things, and I recognized that as a baby in this glorious organization there is much for me to learn. Hope you don't mind having a hand in raising this one.