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					Originally Posted by  Drolefille
					 
				 
				 
Our point is that the things that some people might consider probable cause would in fact be motivated by racist and classist biases.  Therefore making them poor policing methods and violating civil (and human) rights of individuals regardless of their immigration status.  
			
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 i think anything can be perceived as classist and racist if that's your aim.  if one is committing another violation, is stopped, doesn't have ID and can't communicate, it's hard to dispute that there isn't probably cause.