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Originally posted by TriSigmaTX
Because...I started this thread and hold this extremely dear to my heart. Same reason that he or you don't stop antagonizing me. I'm pretty sure we're all here for the same reasons, some people just don't know how to express themselves. I have called and emailed Snapple and so have thousands of Greeks and Greek advisors and parents and yes...we're doing something to stop this. If you're not interested in this topic, why post here???? I'm not forcing you or him to do this, I'm asking....read the original thread, I'm asking you to do this...if you don't want to, then move on.
In regards to this quote: "If you truly want to get this ad removed and to have Snapple apologize publicly, maybe you should focus more on the resources you have for that venture instead of arguing back and fourth with a guy on a messageboard because he is opinionized in a manner that you do not agree with."
Instead of assuming....just ask. As I have POLITELY asked, not BASHED Anyone here....please read the hundreds of posts that I have posted and reword your own thoughts. And what am I doing about this besides sitting here bitching????? I'll list for you:
Did my masters thesis on hazing and submitted to my university.
I travel around the nation talking to college students about the harms of hazing and educating them on what hazing is.
I am a Greek advisor and work to educate students on a daily basis.
I read books on a regular basis about hazing and educate myself regularly.
I volunteer with my own sorority to educate students on the effects of hazing on students.
I subscribe to a hazing listserv to educate myself even more.
I attend conferences and workshops on a regular basis to educate myself on hazing.
So....this is my life and my profession, so I have a deep passion for it.
And in response to this comment, "There are other types of violence that I think are MUCH more serious than hazing, such as domestic violence and rape. Hazees usually put themselves in those situations and many times they can take themselves out. But, the same isn't true for victims of other types of violent crimes."
I'm pretty sure that students that joined fraternities or sororities did not ASK to be hazed. I'm sure that these types of hazing are as serious as anything you could have imagined and are very criminal behavior: burying someone alive, playing Russian Roulette with a gun, forcing someone to drink Windex or motor oil, blindfolding someone and dropping them off in the middle of a road to get hit by a car, sleep deprivation to the point of exhaustion, freezing someone, I could go on....these are serious things. More serious than anyone could imagine. Hazing is not just scavenger hunts, non-detrimental paddling, or pledge signature books. It's all of the things I've listed above and more.
I'm trying to educate, which is why I started this thread. No one should bitch at me about a thread that I started...if you don't want to participate, then simply don't. I fully understand that some people are not as educated and don't understand. It's not a matter of agreeing (meaning this is not an example of whether you believe in God or not, or agree with homosexuality or not), it's a matter of legality. Hazing is illegal in 43 states. Check your state laws. Paddling is hazing, hazing is illegal.
So in closing, we should be working toward the same goals, not against them.
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First, I'm not antagonizing you. You started bitching at FHwku and I came in to basically show you that you went overboard, you even state something to the fact of your thtread to him being a bit harsh or something like that.
Second, I'm still not antagonizing you, I pointed out your flawed argument, don't jump to the defensive. Realize that you may not be right, move on.
Third, I'm asking for paddling related hazing deaths, statistics data, not just hazing data overall, after all you did say or ask rather, "do you know how many men and women have died from paddling?"
If you think that I antagonized you, you have one crazy point of view, I pointed out how you went a bit overboard on a member of the greekchat community, and you tried turning it around on me....no good, won't do...next please....