[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by XODUS1914

Elephant Walk- I think everyone understood who I was referring to when I said 'Native Americans'. That's term has never been used for anybody outside of North America. You say millions of native South and Central Americans being killed. Really? By whom? and When? If you are talking about the African slaves and thier descendents, then you are proving my point.

You've got to be joking. Are you that ignorant of history? That ignorant? I mean, that's really impressive. Given you stances, I would suggest so.

From Bartolome De Las Casas (who was there):

All this comes from an official report by the Bishop of Santa Marta, and one can see clearly from it what is happening to these unfortunate territories and to their innocent inhabitants. When he speaks of those natives who continue the struggle he means those who have managed to flee into the hills to escape butchery by Spanish scoundrels; and by those who surrender he means those who, having survived the wholesale slaughter of their fellow-countrymen, now suffer the barbaric slavery to which the Spanish subject hem and which we have already described—a slavery which will, as the bishop makes clear in his report, eventually prove fatal to each and every one of them. Indeed, he understates the horrific nature of the suffering to which they are subjected.

Or perhaps here...more by De Las Casas

indeed, given that the Spaniards normally spare only women and children, it has led to the annihilation of all adult males, whom they habitually subject to the harshest and most iniquitous and brutal slavery that man has ever devised for his fellow-men, treating them, in fact, worse than animals. All the many and infinitely varied ways that have been devised for oppressing these peoples can be seen to flow from one or other of these two diabolical and tyrannical policies.

The Spaniards use to kick the Indians babies off cliffs as well as use spears to spear pregnant women killing both the baby and the woman.

Hell, the South lost and Blacks didn't get full legal equality until 100 years later. What makes you think if the South won, they would not have been treated 10X worse, having a won a war over the ability to own another person as property?

You start with the premise that the war was fought over slavery. That's not really true.

And stop with this "All salvery is inhumane, so all salvery is equal". That is just pure nonsense and proven historically over and over again to be false.

Well good, because it's nothing I have said.

Slavery in America was the first time one group of people targeted another group of people based on skin color, for perpetual enslavement with a wholistic focus on wiping out the culture, language and history of the group being enslaved.

That's not true whatsoever. As I've told you repeatedly. The Middle East (properly the Ottoman Empire but several other states) enslaved Africans based on skin color. They enslaved Europeans based on skin color. The Arab invaders of Sind took Indians. I mean, really. At this point you're making up stuff.

Your relatives left Russia to escape slavery, right? And they were able to blend in with the Germans to escape detection, right? Them along with millions of other folks, correct? When an African slave escaped from a plantation or jumped off a boat comming from America, where were they supposed to go?

Agreed.

It's just not the first time.