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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Yes, except for the millions who were enslaved..or worse killed in South and Central America. Totally "unenslaveable". Really? Come on man.

Actually what he says is true. Central and South America is different from North American slavery in respect like African slavery began with other nations selling their captured slaves to the Europeans. It was after the Native Americans realized the severity of the American slave trade that the nations banded together in some degree to actively oppose the slave trade. By then it was more economically sound (because by then the African slave trade had begun) to continue the Middle Passage than to waste time, money, and mainpower going to war against the Nations.

The Indian wars of the early 18th century combined with the growing availability of African slaves essentially ended the Native American slave trade by 1750.[1] Numerous colonial slave traders had been killed in the fighting, and the remaining Native American groups banned together more determined than ever to face the Europeans from a position of strength rather than be enslaved.[1] Many of those Native Americans who remained joined confederacies like the Choctaw, the Creek, and the Catawba for protection, making them less easy victims of European slavers.[1] The rape of Native American women who were and were not enslaved commonly occurred, even when African slaves were beginning to become the dominant race enslaved.[5] Both Native American and African American slaves experienced being raped by their slave holders.[5][6] Even the famous Pocahontas was raped at a young age by deputy governor Thomas Dale.[6][7] Pocahontas told her older sister that she was raped by Thomas Dale.[6][7] Rape was one of the worst crimes in a Native American's eyes and resulted in severe punishment even death.[6]

^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z aa ab ac ad ae af ag ah ai aj ak al am an ao ap aq ar as at au av aw ax ay az ba bb bc bd be bf bg bh bi bj bk bl bm bn bo bp Tony Seybert (2009). "Slavery and Native Americans in British North America and the United States: 1600 to 1865". New York Life. http://www.slaveryinamerica.org/hist...ns_slavery.htm. Retrieved 2009-06-20.

^ a b Gloria J. Browne-Marshall (2009). "The Realities of Enslaved Female Africans in America". University of Daytona. http://academic.udayton.edu/Race/05i...ender/rape.htm. Retrieved 2009-06-20.

^ a b c d Linwood Custalow & Angela L. Daniel (2009). "The true story of Pocahontas". Fulcrum Publishinging's. http://books.google.com/books?id=b2A...esult&resnum=9. Retrieved 2009-06-20.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I disagree. Had the Confederacy won, slavery would have still been abolished. That's assuming that the war was even fought over slavery which I'm not sure it was (Marx didn't think it did, among other of his contemporarys)

Yes it would have ended, after it was no longer economically feasible to continue.

Slavery was originally gonna end sooner except for that Eli Whitney guy inventing the Cotton Gin.