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Old 04-05-2010, 07:40 PM
LaneSig LaneSig is offline
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Examining the issue at stake. I analyze it from Kappa Sigma's perspective and FGCU's perspective. I understand FGCU's reasons for having their set of rules in place. It is a young university that is still growing. I can somewhat understand why they would want to control the growth of their greek life. But, at the same time I look at what the Kappa Sigma colony of Fort Myers has done. They have a group of 30something guys who are involved in the school, doing philanthropy,paying dues, and are all in good academic standing with FGCU. The fact that these guys are succeeding at this is impressive. If they were on campus, they would excel even more. Being able to get that many guys without being on campus is impressive. They are doing something right. If they were on campus, I bet they would double or even triple in size. K-Sig Advisor is right Lanesig. The national offices of the fraternities on FGCU's campus told their chapters there to support Kappa Sigma coming on. Sigma Chi is the only one that may have not required them. That is shocking to me because Sigma Chi is in a similar battle trying to get recognized at George Mason University. I can imagine FGCU was wanting them to fail so that this issue would just go away. I'm not saying open the flood gates, but if a group of men can meet the requirements set forth for them by their nationals, they should be recognized by the campus because they are guranteed to make the Greek Life better. I sawthe News coverage. FGCU is making themselves look worse with their responses. They have allready been caught in two lies. That is not good for their sake. They are only making Kappa Sigma look better. They are a fraternity that was started by student interest. If you went to a university and you weren't feeling any of the organizations on campus,sholud you have to sit back and not be able to be in a fraternity? I think not. I totally respect what these young men have done. The News coverage was fair. I don't mean to offend anyone here, but a sorority girl cannot tell a fraternity how to operate. Panhellenic expansion is also something I have seen. There have been so many failed sorority colonizations its not even funny. IFC and Panhellenic rules and regulations are way different. Panhellenic rules and recruitment are unreal. I went to UCF, but I now attend Texas State and I have seen sorority recruitment. The whole process is odd. Instead of you going out for a single sorority, you have to sit through them all. You can possibly end up in the sorority you didn't want because its the only one to give you a bid. Speaking for schools in the south, I've seen girls get burned out by their sororities. They spend too much time living in fear of the rules instead of enjoying their time and making memories. This is why sororities have such a high rate of girls dropping out. This is also why the number of men that stay involved in their fraternities after graduation is way higher than the number of women who stay involved in their sororities after they graduate. Sorority girls have a totally different mindset on these types of issues, which is why they may not understand the issue. What is happening with Kappa Sigma at FGCU would never happen if it was a sorority. I gurantee a group of women who wanted to start a sorority would not succeed because a sorority national hq wouldn't even give them a colony without approval of the campus. The Fort Myers colony, soon to be Rho Zeta chapter will get recognized by FGCU eventually.
Couple of things:

#1 - Not the same as Sigma Chi at George Mason. We were on campus as a recognized fraternity and got kicked off for myriad of reasons. HQ felt that the campus kicked us off without justification (I don't know all the reasons, so I can't argue them). Sigma Chi is currently unrecognized by GMU, but recognized by HQ. We did not ask to come on to campus, be asked to wait, and then said "To hell with you, we are going to colonize anyway."

#2- I won't even start on the sorority aspect. I am intrigued by the argument that there have been "so many failed sorority colonizations". The NPC, whether you agree with all of their rules or not, have their sh** (pardon me, ladies of GC) down pat. While I won't argue that every so often a colonization fails, I think history has proven that the majority of colonizations succeed and thrive.


Here is what I see the main issue: Why couldn't Kappa Sigma wait to colonize? In a totally serious question, is Kappa Sigma so desperate for colonies that it couldn't wait? Obviously, the answer is no.

Kappa Sigma chose to colonize for a campus that had a clear rule that stated that if a fraternity colonized without permission, they would have to wait 5 years for recognition. But, it looks like Kappa Sigma feels that they shouldn't have to wait or play by rules they don't agree with.

Also, go back to my question for KSig Advisor: Kappa Sigma doesn't want to be in the NIC, but apparently wants to use NIC policies and expects NIC support. Then, rejoin the NIC.
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Last edited by LaneSig; 04-05-2010 at 07:52 PM. Reason: edited for grammar
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