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Originally Posted by MysticCat
Perhaps because many of them actually have personal experience with the topic at hand, and their personal experience has taught them that it just ain't as simple or black-and-white as he makes it out to be.
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Exactly.
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Originally Posted by als463
I don't really understand why everyone is taking what Kevin has said so personally. I agree with a lot of what he is saying. Here are some options, so I can contribute to this discussion without being told I haven't given any solutions to the problem.
1.) If you are "over-qualified" (because, as someone with an A.A., 2 B.A.s and an M.Ed., I have been told the same thing) maybe you could work on "fixing" your resume to reflect having one down of your actual degree. Meaning, if you have a Masters, maybe your potential employer only needs to know about your Bachelor's degree.
2.) There are some jobs out there that people don't want to take. I get that. Many people are losing out on Civil Service jobs to prior military. Solution: Why not consider checking out the military. As former military, I can tell you that, for the most part, the military is always looking to hire.
3.) You don't have enough education? Maybe you could consider going back to school. For some people, that might suck. I get that, but you have to make a move one way or another to get yourself out of that situation.
When I first moved to NY, I had a job within 2 weeks. I had NO PREVIOUS experience (completely) in that field and I didn't know one person in the city. I sent out 40+ applications in a 2-week span and I got called back for maybe 5-10 interviews. It worked out.
Now, I have gone back to school, again.
I just don't think people need to chew him up and spit him out. It is a harsh reality, but maybe people are choosing you to work for them because your degree isn't very sought after or they are looking for people who went to top schools when maybe you didn't go to that great of a school. Maybe your GPA was bad. I don't know. This is NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE. I'm just saying that if I lose out on a job to someone who went to a better school than me, I accept that. If I lose out to people with more experience, so be it.
I hope everyone finds a job that they truly enjoy.
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1) You don't think a background check will bring up the fact that you have more education than your resume states? Even if you do "dumb down" your resume, several employers are looking for either executives or hourly employees. If you're used to being a mid-level employee, you're SOL.
2) That's not always that easy, either. My sister graduated with an amazing GPA and had plans to become an officer in the AF upon graduation. Once she graduated, she was forced to enlist and will only be eligible for officer status after a year or so.
On top of that, a lot of people wouldn't fit in with the military lifestyle. Of course, it's an option, but don't try to act like I can just up and join the military tomorrow if I wanted to.
3) Lack of education isn't really the topic at hand. Most of the time, those are the people getting the jobs (since employers can pay them lower wages). It's the people with education that are having a hard time, as they're constantly being told they're overqualified (for lower level jobs) or not qualified (for executive level jobs). There's not a lot of middle ground anymore.
Again, some folks here are clearly out of touch with reality.