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Old 03-09-2010, 05:36 PM
libramunoz libramunoz is offline
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Originally Posted by Kevin View Post
I can hardly come to any other conclusion though. If someone spends however many months on the dole as are currently allowed and has yet to find a job, when does the blame shift from the economy or somesuch other nebulous entity to the individual? Does it ever shift?

And let's just assume all of these "It's not their fault" premises ad arguendo. Why are their problems my problems? Why must I and other taxpayers continue to watch the money I spend in taxes go to solve their problems? Pay their bills? Bail them out? I don't think anyone could reasonably believe that the current federal fiscal irresponsibility can continue indefinitely. But I get to watch as my money is spent on this crap and then I, who will still be gainfully employed for the rest of my life, will get to bear a lot more than my fair share in paying it back. But I guess I shouldn't have a problem with that?
I'm just gonna start here with YOUR statement.

I pay my OWN DAMN TAXES--what I get in unemployment DOES NOT COME FROM YOU! It comes from what I HAVE PUT INTO THE SYSTEM THROUGH MY OWN AMOUNT OF WORK!

Sorry, Kevin, you don't pay my bills-from my water to my student loans, you don't pay SHIT of mine-but if you'd like to, go right ahead! Want my address-I'll send you the bills!

You then make this weak ass argument of:"Why are their problems my problems?" Here's a clue for you Kevin, MY PROBLEMS AREN'T YOUR PROBLEMS...HELL, YOU COULDN'T HANDLE THEM! If you want my problems, be my guest, but again, the minute you got them, you'd throw them right back at me and say, DDDDAAAAAYYYYYMMMMNNN, now THOSE are problems!

Now you dumbly make the statement that "I, who will st ill be gainfully employed for the rest of my life" are living in a total world of farce, or is it the World of Witchcraft, I seem to forget! Either way, they are both fictional and both full of fantasy.

Sorry, but last time I checked, your name isn't God and you control NOTHING! You cannot say when you will check out of here through death. That is something that you have NO CONTROL over! I'm so sorry to inform you of this, so just get over it and get over it quickly.
Moreover, how do you know that you will have this job for eternity? Whose to say that something won't happen 5 minutes from now and the job you have goes into the world of vanishing. It happens, and it happens on a daily basis. People who thought that they had "good jobs" are losing them left and right in this country so that people can continue to have A job period.

This is something that happens on a daily basis. For example, older workers, who tend to have higher salaries, are being offered "early retirement" or in some cases even a forced retirement. Why for cutbacks, in order to make room for new joe college grad that would definetly make less, and in order to keep their own jobs secure.
This is the real world, this is something that happens everyday. Why don't you look at some of the cases that you are representing. Cases where people are suing companies in order to keep them employed, pay back salaries for inappropriate firings, and to keep health insurance going for them when the company fired them because their health needs were appearing to "supercede" the needs of the company.

This is something that happens everyday! As it was said in the movie School Daze, WAKE UP! Stop trying to deny the fact that someone being unemployed is a) what they want, b) what they desire, c) what they look forward to, and d) is their own damn fault! It just ain't so!

Then you decide to make the statement of: "If someone spends however many months on the dole as are currently allowed and has yet to find a job, when does the blame shift from the economy or somesuch other nebulous entity to the individual? Does it ever shift?"
AGAIN I say to you, when you are unemployed, what are you supposed to do? When you have tried, tried, and tried to find and get a job, what in the hell are you supposed to do?

I can say, that yes, I was grateful when Congress extended unemployment benefits, it has helped me in a) not being on welfare for susistence and b) helped me in being able to retain some sense of oh...human value/worth by being able to PAY MY OWN BILLS.

Sorry, get the hell up out of your gilded cage and get into the real world. Step into the real world of life and let some of that shit hit you in the face. Smell what poverty can do and has done to some people. Step into the light of not having lights and not having water. Step into the reality of a homeless shelter with families, with parents that have degrees but don't have anywhere else to go. Step into displaced families that are living with each other in order to survive and help have a place to stay. Step into reality and then come back and tell me this same shit. I bet you won't because you would have gained the basic thing that you lack, HUMILITY AND EMPATHY.

I don't ask you to be sympathatic for me, I do consider myself on of the blessed ones in life. But you need to see how others consider you.
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Last edited by libramunoz; 03-09-2010 at 06:00 PM. Reason: left out one thing.
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