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Old 10-15-2009, 05:58 AM
DaemonSeid DaemonSeid is offline
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 View Post
lmao 13 years ago? Really? vast difference between kids then and kids now.

But here are some things you should recognize if you have experience in a school system. . .and a few other things you should realize:
1. the school system has to make sure that they are covered with respect to liability. So whether someone thinks the policy is too rigid or not, they have to do what is going to protect them from a lawsuit.
2. i think everyone recognizes that those kinds of kids need structure, and no one is questioning their intellectual prowess. However, that is irrelevant on the subject of whether there should be a zero tolerance weapons policy.
3. situations like this are why the school systems are steadily declining. From here on out parents really don't need to complain about school violence because when the school authorities try to really crack down and create policies to help combat such issues, the parents want to raise hell. Schools are just too political now. Often public outcry manages to force school officials to override doing the RIGHT thing. In this instance, the RIGHT thing was to punish him in accordance with the policy. And the fact that his mother is justifying his behavior is absolutely absurd. More evidence of what is going wrong with children and schools today.
4. while they are promoting the fact that he is a cub scout so heavily, perhaps they should question why someone in his cub scout group didn't advise him NOT to take the utensil to school. furthermore, why didn't his MOTHER advise him not to take the utensil to school and check to make sure he didn't?
5. i would also like to know why the media is publishing his name and his picture. don't they usually avoid doing that for minors? i suspect the goal was to get more people to rally against the school system by tugging at heartstrings. Realistically speaking, had the article simply stated that a 6yr old had taken a knife, spoon, fork utensil to school and left out the picture and cub scout references, there would not have been as much outcry.

There really isn't that much of a difference. What matters really is the school system.

I love how you JUST KEEP telling me that these are thing "I should realize" when what I realize is that these are some things that YOU should realize is simply "out of your control".

This is the media we are talking about. An entity that THRIVES off of bad news if they made things 'simple', they wouldn't stay in business.

And to answer your number 5, I think the picture in the article and this passage:

“Zachary wears a suit and tie some days to school by his own choice because he takes school so seriously,” said Debbie Christie, Zachary’s mother, who started a Web site, helpzachary.com, in hopes of recruiting supporters to pressure the local school board at its next open meeting on Tuesday. “He is not some sort of threat to his classmates.

”Uhhhh...COMMON SENSE to me sounds like the parents (which is what's needed for the news to print that info in the first place) gave PERMISSION for the media TO USE his likeness...but, hey...what do I know?


and to your number 3, I think we have expressed that one already since the beginning of the thread and THAT was simple in case you missed it: LACK OF COMMON SENSE.



That sums this WHOLE ENTIRE thread up nicely.

Oh and I am sorry...but what do you mean by "Those Kinds of Kids"? exactly to whom are you referring to? What is the difference between those kids and "other" kids? How do you quantify such an empirical and wide sweeping statement? How many different school systems in how many years have you taught to know the difference?

I am really hoping you aren't referring to the type of kids I taught.


...hypocrite.
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