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Originally Posted by 33girl
No, dipshit, that is not what I said.
I said at some point, women chose to be in the company of their attacker - unless they were mugged on the street/raped at gunpoint. None of which we are talking about here. I did not say they chose to be raped or get AIDS or whatever or were "asking for it" or are responsible.
These animals never, ever chose to be in the company of Michael Vick or any of his equally sick asshole friends. This isn't Animal Farm where the animals can revolt, although it would have been the bomb diggity if it were.
Why do people freak out more over the rape of a baby than the rape of a grown woman? I mean, I'm sure that baby will forget all about it by the time it grows up. Babies don't know any better. (This is called SARCASM by the way.)
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Clearly you missed the point. The woman is not more responsible (than the dog) because she may have chosen to spend time around her attacker. What is the point in saying that a woman consented to being around her attacker before being attacked? It is irrelevant. If the dogs chose to be around Vick or the others would that make what they (Vick & Friends) did any less criminal or vicious? No. Clearly you missed the SARCASM in my comment about the dogs leaving. Yeah, dipsh*t, funny.
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Originally Posted by als463
Are you serious? How come everything has to turn into a race war when a minority commits a crime or does something wrong?
This isnt a race war. I dont understand why it is so scary for some people for race to be mentioned. My claim isnt that he was found guilty because he's black. He's guilty and was found such. I did say that his being black influenced how he was sentenced. In his sentencing the judge did not feel he was remorseful enough. Trying to guess whether or not a person is sorry enough is dificult to do. The person's public image will play a role in how he's viewed by others. The fact that he's black and a celebrity (who was portrayed as a hip-hop thug) IMO influenced his sentencing. Is that so farfetched? If Vick were a clean cut "wholesome" looking young white man he would seem more believeable to many people. Including those in the media, the court room, and the general public.
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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito
He actually got a pretty good deal. The federal government was ready to press racketeering charges against him. If they convicted him, which I believe they would have been able to, he would have gotten a $250,000 fine and or 20 years in prison.
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If he had been brought up on those charges and gotten 18 months then that would have been a very good deal. But on the funding the dog fighting I think he could have gotten less time.