[carnation]

Damasa,

One reason I don't see that the new local will be any better is because 2 of them were outside my window in drag awhile back with giant letters on their backs. Another is that one member is in one of my classes and he talks a a lot about what they do. They, like the rest, seem to think that hazing builds bonds.

If you aren't here with the situation, I don't think you can criticize what I'm saying about it. The nationals who have already expressed interest in the school have been apprised of the situation.

I've lived here in town for over 20 years and I know that the hazing is much worse than it was 10 years ago; it's like they're on a roll and can't stop themselves. As I mentioned, 2 of the fraternities and 1 sorority have died in the past few years--these groups were very strong a few years ago. You have to be kind of masochistic to put up with the kind of crap the so-called Greeks here have dealt out recently.

Another thing is that national sororities in the South tend not to haze. (And I hope they don't elsewhere but I haven't lived there to know!) Yes, I know someone will step in here and describe some case but around here, it's really considered ill-bred. I've been involved with the Southern Greek scene for many years and do not personally know a woman who has been hazed.