a lot of valid points established...sorry for the lateness of the reply, something about working full-time and being a student...
if anyone remembers when i first came to these boards i argued the opposite to my current stance on hazing. I depledged a non-NIC fraternity because i felt they didn't achieve the ideals they preached, and not necessarily what was being done to me. I have nothing vs this organization or any of it's members, some of the pledging that i experienced (which was difficult) i felt served valid purposes, some stuff did not...if i told any of you what my pledging entailed you would be most likely be shocked but more than anything else you wouldn't understand the symbolism of the acts. Now if ABC fraternity committed these same acts but were insinuated in a different manner, the product may be completely different. It's about interpretation, that's why i suggested to leave what remains behind closed doors there, because what you hear from word of mouth is probably not the full story. This chapter will suffer the repercussions of these acts and when that happens, you can rest assured that these acts will cease, and not because of your conscious but due to their stupidity. That's why i disagree with the complete 'pcness' of the greek system nowadays, to me it seems anything that's difficult or uncomfortable in any form has been eliminated from the greek system. Different forms of hazing produce different results, some forms of hazing should stay and some should obviously go.
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