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Old 03-31-2009, 06:12 PM
PeppyGPhiB PeppyGPhiB is offline
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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K. View Post
Progress, to me, is not only determined by getting a job. And in this recession there are going to be plenty of people who cant get one. I think the goal of training and education is not only to make workers more employable, but to also help them better themselves and take steps toward a career and not just a job. The job market isn't like it used to be. It used to be that a person could get a job with one company and work for that same company until they retire (My gdad worked for GM for years after the airforce). That doesnt happen any more so people have to look for more than just a job because those come and go quickly.

If there are no jobs available then the person should be taking steps toward building a career. There isnt much any person can do if no one is hiring. If it is quite evident that jobs arent available (as it is now) then progress would be determined by what the person is doing to better themselves via education and training. If a person hasn't found a job in three months, but has enrolled in a GED course and is investigating educational programs (post GED) then that is progress. If the person is taking the courses that are mandatory and performing well in them then that is progress. Another exhibition of progress is volunteering. If a person is giving their time to community service and are having a positive impact then that is progress. A person also could volunteer to do a job for no pay to gain experience. That is progress.

Progress to me is that person taking steps to make themselves better and to plan and prepare for the future. When that person takes steps job or no job in the right direction then I have no problem with them getting assistance.
So what does the person with an MBA, or an engineering degree, or masters degree, and 10-15 years experience in their field do? Not all unemployed people are uneducated or inexperienced or non-professionals - in fact, in my state, which is the most educated in the country, I'd say the vast majority are not. I will never forget going to the unemployment office for a mandatory "audit" and class and being surrounded by people with graduate degrees (including PhDs) who were all being told that they needed to check out getting their GED or an associates degree from the local community college. WTF? The "teacher" of the course was embarassed giving that kind of lecture to people who were mostly more educated than he was! There is nothing they can do for people who already have an education and vast job skills; they just haven't been set up for that.

Also, if people don't have jobs, and banks aren't loaning money for student loans as freely as they used to, how are people supposed to pay for more college and training?

I've said it before, but I'll say it again, if people think it's bad now, just wait til six months from now, when people's unemployment runs out! You ain't seen nothin yet!
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