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I think C meant that DF was an "old man" to her, as a child. In fact, I didn't remember her saying old man, but scary man. Not that she didn't say it, "old" just wasn't the word I picked up on.
I think B lied to L because B can't handle that he was never "supposed" to be the leader, if that makes sense. I think he's a very flawed, very sad man who is causing more problems because of his own selfishness.
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