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Originally Posted by I.A.S.K.
This situation is definitely not 100% Hamas' fault. Isreal did not have a right to the land in the first place and Israel definitely did not have the right to push the People into the small area of Gaza and then cut off their borders prohibiting trade and other essential economic functions. Isareal has a right to defend its people, but it does not have the right to slaughter innocent civilians while cutting them off from adequate help. The borders have been cut off for some time now. Its not like Hamas started an all out attack on Israel's citizens killing over 500 of them. The ratios are quite evident. 870:30 with the ratio of dead civilians looking something like 500:10. Want to know how to make a terrorist? Bomb their community consistantly, keep food and other essentials away from them, bomb mosques and schools, Kill more Civilans than "Hamas bad guys". That will turn people in to terrorists. Israel is completely wrong for this attack on Gaza. How do you justify the murders of innocent women and children?
FYI: Very Graphic!
These are some tuff unarmed terrorists. Throwing rocks.
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Why did Israel not have a right to the land in the first place? Who even cares about that. The six-day war happened, the Arab countries tried to exterminate the Israelis, they got whipped. Sometimes when you go to war and get your ass handed to you, unpleasant things result.
As for the ratios, they're meaningless. This is the whole whiny argument that the countermeasures by Israel are not "proportional." What a crock of siht. If we had proportionally responded to 9/11, what would we have done? Flown a couple planes into the two tallest buildings in Afghanistan?
Israel has a right to defend its people. Diplomacy has failed for decades. You can't negotiate with someone whose central value is exterminating you. While appearing extreme, dealing a crushing blow to Hamas is about the only way Israel can stop these attacks.
The ratios of dead also fail to mention the fact that many of these dead (the great majority) are Palestinian fighters. Many of the rest are individuals purposely placed in harm's way by Hamas as human shields. Israel drops leaflets and tells people to get the hell out of dodge if they don't want to have bombs dropped on them. They are not intentionally targetting civilians. Hamas, on the other hand is packing rockets with metal balls in an attempt to kill as many innocent civilians as possible. There's just no comparison.
Finally, as for your "you want to know how to make a terrorist" spiel, I don't think Israel can help that. A reasonably objective Palestinian, at least by western thought standards might view the situation as being mostly Hamas' fault, i.e., if they weren't shooting rockets at Israel's people, the Palestinian people would have food, electricity, shelter and security. Hamas knew that an invasion like this was likely if they continued their activities, and they did so despite repeated warnings. Finally, these folks from Hamas are ordering Palestinian children to locate themselves around probable Hamas targets as human shields. To my mind, if I'm a Palestinian, I'm dragging the nearest Hamas official out into the street and beating him to death for so recklessly endangering my people.
As an aside, I find the 'shock' and 'horror' of some at this event to be ridiculous. This sort of thing has been happening in various locations all over the world and on a much grander scale (Darfur, anybody?) and the world community has hardly peeped about it. Is it because you don't like Jews? Is it because you don't think the lives in Darfur are as important as those in Gaza?