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Old 11-02-2008, 08:21 PM
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I said whom I feel is the most qualified.
I do vote on what I believe. In your post you said that you did not consider extraneous factors. Being a KKK supporter/white supremist would be an extraneous factor. It has nothing to do with the position. You wouldn't list it on your resume. If it was a disqualifier then a great many presidents would not have made it into the oval office.



According to whom? If a POTUS candidate meets the basic criteria outlined in the U.S. Constitution, they have as much a chance of winning as anyone else. Again, we need to stop allowing outside peer pressure and the media to have so much credence in influencing our votes.

No, they do not. Ron Paul has as much of a chance as Bill Clinton in '08. There are plenty of people who meet the basic criteria to be President but, have no chance. Hell, by the basic criteria (which are that a person be 35 or older, natural born citizen or citizen born overseas to two american citizen parents, and have lived in the US for 14 years) over HALF the US total Population has as much a chance at winning. Joe the Plumber could be president, but he truly does not have a snowball's chance in hell. Who is pressuring you? Can you please ask them to stop so that the rest of us do not have to hear about this outside pressure you are suffering from? I am not suffering from outside pressure. I TRULY know where the candidates stand on the issues most important to me and have made my decision accordingly. I just happen to agree with a huge heard of others.

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Quite the opposite; I would throw my desire away by settling for a standard far inferior to what I would like. By voting for the lesser of two evils, you voluntarily forfeit your true desire and settle for mediocrity by lowering your standards and accepting whatever agenda they push your way, which most likely will not be what you are truly looking for in a leader.
By voting for the lesser of two evils you acknowledge that your true desire is no longer an option (ie:Ron Paul will NOT be president) and as such you will adapt your desires to align with what is possible. No candidate will be perfect and no candidate will always do what you want. If you accpet the agenda they push on you that is your choice. You do not have to. President _____ can push what he wants. IF it is something I do not like I can object to it and make my dislike known.

I place my vote on a BALLOT, not on a lottery ticket, a racing form, or any other gambling form.

You might as well be gambling. You'd have a better chance at getting your candidate in office that way.

The beauty of Ron Paul is that he voted consistently with his belief system for over 30 years. His personal lifestyle also consistently aligns with his belief system, which aligns with his method of voting. One thing Ron Paul has never been accused of, and that is being a flip-flopper on the issues.
That belief system also happens to be a racist one.



Poison is only guaranteed to be administered if you allow it to be.
Whether you want it or not either Obama or McCain will be our next president. The poison WILL be administered. The only way to avoid it is to denounce your citizenship and move to another country and never come back.
By the same token, I will not allow the federal government to dictate how I should live my life nor will they dictate my belief system. If the herd mentality allows it, that doesn't make me dumb to disallow it, nor does that make my expression of such disallowance through voting a wasted effort.
The Federal Government already does and will continue to dictate how you do live your life and how you should live your life. Is it a heard mentality if a large group of people believe in one thing and stand firm to that belief? I believe that my candidate is whats best for this nation and so do the others that are voting for him. If that makes us a heard then fine. Just recognize that you suffer from the same heard mentality. You and all of the other Ron Paul heard members. The only difference is that your heard is much smaller and much less effective than mine. And that your shepard wont be president and mine will.
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With all due respect, I thing you're out of touch with the reality of the seriousness and severity of our political and economic state of affairs. Again, not trying to slight you in any manner, just being honest.

Honestly, You're the one who is out of touch. Trust I am in touch and I'm loving the way it feels.

You did not throw away a vote. You only throw away a vote when you settle for less than what you desire solely for the sake of conformity. So you did a great thing. Do not kick yourself for what you did.
In the same vein you throw away a vote when you settle for loss for the sake of "non-conformity". I did not kick myself for what I did. I desired to kick other voters for not doing what was best for our community. I did throw away a vote. I cannot go to that person's office and demand accountability on the strength of my vote because I did not give that person my vote. Since that person will be in office I will have to demand accountability on the basis that the ofiice he/she holds allows for me to do so. One does have a greater power than the other. Slightly greater, but greater none the less.
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