[SoTrue1920]

Originally posted by SeriousSigma22
SoTrue1920,
If parents discipline out of love instead of anger then there is nothing wrong with spanking a child for showing disrespectful and out of control behavior.

Let's turn this around:

"If a pledge master disciplines out of love instead of anger, then there is nothing wrong with spanking a pledge for showing disrespectful and out of control behavior."

Or even further:
"If a slave master disciplines out of love instead of anger, then there is nothing wrong with spanking a slave for showing disrespectful and out of control behavior."

Do you see where I'm going with this? People can use all kinds of reasons to rationalize what is basically inhuman treatment of another human being. Just because it's always been that way, it doesn't mean that it always has to be that way.

Originally posted by SeriousSigma22
What about those children that are coming from well to do families and have hurt or killed their classmates? A lot of those children are rotten to the core, sitting in juvenile detention or being charged as adults because mom and dad didn't discipline.

So physical abuse of someone who is already mentally unstable is justified? People don't become murderers because they have an unsatisfying home life. People don't become serial killers because their parents didn't spank them as children. People who exhibit this kind of deviant behaviour are mentally ill - and no amount of spanking or physical discipline -- no matter if it's meted out with "love" or not -- is going to change that. If anything, it'll show an already ill person that the only way to show "love" is through pain. It'll demonstrate to them that the only way they can get their point across is through intimidation and physical violence.