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Originally posted by James
You might want to define the parameters of what you are suggesting Brad.
For example, do you mean that at any time someone is seen by a Fraternity member to be drinking underage that person should go before the judicial board and be expelled? By the way, that is the only way for that to work.
Its like execution, for it to work as a deterrant you need to execute automatically for certain offenses.
Following this train of logic, you would also have to place chapter officers and chapter members at risk. Basicially, if they don't report someone underage drinking for expulsion, they would have to face that penalty themselves. Maybe institute an award system for people to turn their brothers in, otherwise people will only turn on the less popular brother.
Doing the above would probably result in both a sharp decrease in overall numbers as well as a shift in the population base that you are drawing from. The Fraternity would probably lose a lot of the mainstream students and start picking up more of the students that would normally opt for Circle-K and Christian Groups.
Another easy solution would be to forbid membership to those under 21.
But anyway, we would need more information on where you are headed Brad, for us to provide more constructive opinions.
Semper
James
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James, I'm not necessarily looking for the easy answer. I don't think there is one. I'm looking for a host of responses to save what I believe is one of the most important things in my life - Kappa Sigma. ANY potential solutions are welcome.
LET ME ADD SOME MEAT TO THIS DISCUSSION IN HOPES OF GETTING ALOT MORE INPUT: I was asked yesterday to chair an ad-hoc Risk Management committee to address this and related issues. It is a SMALL committee with equal representation from undergrads and alums. We are taked with creating a meaningful RM policy/process. Kappa Sigma has never had a Risk Management policy.
While we will be getting input from the 4 undergrads on the committee, I would like more representation in terms of WHAT WILL WORK. I am not greatly interested in the labor pains, there will be many.....I want the baby. PLEASE ask your brothers to join in the conversation. This IS time sensitive!
To answer James' question, our CBR does not allow for automatic expulsion, it can be pretty expeditious, but not automatic or immediate. It does allow for immediate suspension, pending further action as outlined in the CBR.
YOU TELL ME - what would have an impact. Here's the case:
Omega-Mu (sorry, couldn't resist) Chapter has held a mixer with the Kappas. Guests were limited, but it was a serious mixer. Because of university rules, alcohol could be BYOB or 3rd party vendor only. The chapter chose BYOB. The members had been encouraged, in Chapter Meeting, by the social chair to "bring extra beer" becuase the Kappas can't bring any due to national policies. The beers brought in my the chapter members were placed in coolers full of ice, and were served by a couple "sober patrol" members. They served anyone who asked for a beer that didn't "look trashed," including minors. No one got hurt, but a couple of the Kappa pledges, Omega-Mu pledges and Brothers (all underage) went back to the dorms and were confronted by a Resident Advisor as they stumbled thru the halls. When asked where they had been drinking, they told the RA "at the Kappa Sig house." The RA called the Greek Advisor, who called the pledges in, confirmed the story, and then called IMH to report that an investigation into underage drinking was underway. The DGM came in, confirmed the events happened as represented above, and reported it to the SEC.
NOW WHAT? No one was seriously injured, but risks exist. How do we take this situation (and the 40 like it that happen every year) and ensure it doesn't happen again? What discipline, who, how long, chapter consequences, educational, etc.
Help me. Please.
AEKDB
Brad