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"they're offended by this discussion & the comments by Dexter & Reds6 & Blackwatch & they want it to stop. they want the moderators to stand up and say that this conversation shouldn't happen."

How dare "they" try and dictate what we will discuss! They aint none of our MASTERS! We are FREE! We have the right to express our opinions. If this topic is too REAL for them, then they need
to skip this thread.

" by AXO Alum "

" Okay - so are you saying that you actually have SEEN homosexuals publicly displaying their "sin" -- I'm just wondering what the difference in sin is -- is it only sin when its public?"

I I've seen gays who make it OBVIOUS they are gay. Also if I find out thru trusted sources that someone is gay...I would go on that as I would with any other acusation of negative behavior. If it is not known that you are gay, and I can't tell, then you could SLIDE in Alpha under my nose. Just like if you were a rapist, gangster, or anything else I consider negative, you would slide in as well. But if I find out, forget about it. Its a sin whether its behind close doors or in public...but if I catch you...THAT is when I can block you from Alpha.



"Do you really think using the term "fag" doesn't imply discrimination?? Would you tolerate a gay man using the *n* word"

F*g and Gay mean the same thing...someone who is attracted to the same sex. The "N" world means "an ignorant person". It DOESN'T mean a Black person, though historically white people have called Blacks the name. A white person can be an "N".
F*g has a more negative conotation than gay. If you feel homosexuality is negative, then you tend to term it with the negative conotation. But, I will be PC and use gay. I don't believe F*g means a homo who should be discriminated against.

"I don't know of any GLO (red and yellow black and white) that seeks negativity. And yes, we all must judge people for selection. But that doesn't mean that any of us should overstep the boundaries of the criteria that our founders set for us."

I don't interpret homosexuality in line with our founders criteria for someone who exemplifies Manhood (which is different from just being male)
...just my interpretation. Further it is unrealistic for everyone to full agree with EVERYTHING their org says. So if homos get in, its a personal problem for me, not the Frat at large.
"MY" people means to me any person who is in need. ...And yes, it does sound racist and prejudiced when you say that you don't want to help anyone other than "your" people. Actually, it just sounds rather sad -- I would hope that someone would help you in your time of need because you NEED someone or something - not because of the color of your skin."

A certain group of people have been (and continue to be) oppressed by another group of people. I fall into the category of the ones oppressed so those are MY PEOPLE. White people aren't racially oppressed by anyone so there is no need to FOCUS resources on that race. Blacks and people of color are...thus the need to look out for ourselves (because our white oppressor DEFINITELY are not)
I don't have anything against helping someone in need. But white people in need have more resources available than Black people in need. So I'm gonna focus the FEW resources we do have for us ON US! Like I said, I don't have a problem if a white person gets helped by us. Our resources are for us SPECIFICALLY, and others COINCIDENTALLY. I'm targeting helping OUR neighborhoods. If whites live in our neiborhoods, then they will be helped too. Racism implies a power to oppress, which NO BLACK person HAS...There for I can't be racist. I can however be descrimatory and prejudice. Racism, Descrimination, and Prejudice are DIFFERENT words for a REASON (all though they are related).

"Think about the words you use when you describe others. And think about how you would feel if you were the one being described. "

I can see your point about using the f*g word. I can use whatever word gays prefer for their behavior...it all means the same thing to me. There is no need for me to try and make them angry with a word they don't like. As far as the harshness of what I'm saying...
the racial problem (which in my opinion is as relevant and strong as ever) is more harsh for Blacks then any white could EVER imagine. We deal with it EVERYDAY...but when it comes across some whites computer screen they want to BAN the conversation so that they don't have to deal with it. The reality is that life is unfair. And it is MORE unfair for Blacks than whites. The scale is tipped in the favor of whites. I will use ALPHA to help BALANCE the scale. If I equally add weight to both sides of the scale, it will NEVER be balanced. Therefore, I'm adding ALL my weight to the BLACK SIDE!

...Kudos to any white people who are trying to balance the scale...I appreciate it.