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Old 03-22-2002, 11:20 AM
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Re: IMAGE is IMPORTANT

Okay - I just have a few things I'd like to point out from your post (with all due respect to your right to free speech, yada yada yada)

Originally posted by APhiAce
Everyone has their own moral values. For many, homosexuality is immoral and negative. I see it as such, and Anti-Alpha. If I saw a sweet brother tryning to get in, I'd vote him down because I see gayness as negative. Some would ask me to check myself in the mirror...I know I sin and do negative anti-Alpha things in my life. But if I displayed these sins publicly, I would have gotten voted down too!

(You have the right to have your own moral values) Okay - so are you saying that you actually have SEEN homosexuals publicly displaying their "sin" -- or that its okay for you to sin because you are behind closed doors? As far as I know, the homosexuals that I am friends with have never gone so far as to hold hands in public, much less to do their business on the lawn of the quad. I'm just wondering what the difference in sin is -- is it only sin when its public?

Just cause you're a fag doesn't mean that you can't do positive work in the frat.

Do you really think using the term "fag" doesn't imply discrimination?? Would you tolerate a gay man using the *n* word when he says "Just because you're a *n* doesn't mean that you can't do positive work in society" I personally don't agree to name-calling based on color, sexual preference, creed, religion, etc. etc. If you don't like someone's sexual preference, then state that -- but don't resort to the name calling.

I can't judge anybody. But we DO judge people when making membership selections and are EXPECTED to. ALPHA doesn't seek negativity.

I don't know of any GLO (red and yellow black and white) that seeks negativity. And yes, we all must judge people for selection. But that doesn't mean that any of us should overstep the boundaries of the criteria that our founders set for us. AXO has always had 5 membership criteria on which PMN's are judged. Its right there on our national website, and we tell each and every woman what these criteria are. None of them would EVER include race, sexual preference, creed, religion, etc. Not since they were established has there been a derivation of these criteria.

As far as Whites in the frat....I don't get it. I think it's suspect. Not all white people are bad, but BGLOs aren't just Fraternal Organizations.

Mighty "black" of you to say -- thanks for letting us all know that not all of us are bad....

I didn't realize that BGLO's aren't "JUST" fraternal orgs? And to think that all along, I was only serving AXO because it was just a fraternal thing to me with no deeper meaning.


We don't plan programs for white people, or target white people for our service. If they so happen to get served...cool. We're trying to save our own. I feel white people may try and DILLUTE our focus and try and use our resources to help "EVERYBODY". We as black folks need our resources dedicated SOLELY TO US! Its human nature to look after your own. If I was in a white organization, I would be thinking of how to use their resources to help my people. I find it hard to imagine that a white person would exclude their OWN people to help ours. I don't want our programs dilluted.
A white person has to have that understanding. If they are willing to submit to serving mostly Blacks, (when using frat time/resources)...then fine...you can join. But don't come in my org trying to "whitewash" it and waste the little resources we have "spreading the love". It sounds prejudice (not racist) but thats REAL. That is my only concern w/white folks in the frat.


And I guess this is where I can say proudly that YES - AXO is promoting non-discrimination. We serve Victims of Domestic Violence. Not - WHITE Victims of Domestic Violence. And not BLACK Victims of Domestic Violence. Victims - period. When we take food, clothing, and supplies to the shelter, we see people of all colors. (To refer to an earlier post of mine from way back when...) We do serve MOSTLY black people....BLACK AND BLUE from bruises that is. When I take the hand of a woman who has been hit so much that she is blind in one eye, then I care not that that hand is white or black...only that she is someone in need. "MY" people means to me any person who is in need. I will not overlook a black woman to give help to a white woman simply because of color. I would not be part of an organization which would tell me WHO I can and cannot help based upon color. If your org wants to support a reading program for black children in a government subsidized housing development -- great. Go for it! But if you were teaching a group of black kids to read and a white kid showed up, would you turn him away -- because wouldn't this be "diluting" your program?? I would hope not. And yes, it does sound racist and prejudiced when you say that you don't want to help anyone other than "your" people. Actually, it just sounds rather sad -- I would hope that someone would help you in your time of need because you NEED someone or something - not because of the color of your skin.

So flame me, PM me, (don't email me - because I have so much spam from the V's I never check it), whatever -- but think about the words you use when you describe others. And think about how you would feel if you were the one being described.