Quote:
Originally posted by carnation
I know that no one has said that y'all associate all whites with homosexuality. What I'm saying is that the title of the thread insinuates that whites and homosexuals are groups that are bottom-of-the-barrel. Also, some whites have major problems with homosexuals in their organizations, others don't, so no one should generalize and say that homosexuality is more acceptable in HWGLOs. It varies.
In this and other discussions on whites in BGLOS, some BGLO members have said that they don't want whites in their orgs. Now what would happen if a similar discussion started about blacks in HWGLOs and even one person said they didn't want them? There would be such a hue and cry about racism...and rightfully so. I don't believe in exclusion.
Also, I am not "hurt". I'm hurt.
|
Carnation,
I'm not understanding how the title (or nature) of this thread implies that whites and homosexuals are bottom-of-the-barrel members ???
Also, thanks for stating your "racial creditentials" but that was really unnecessary. Due to the fact that these are public boards, if someone in a WGLO are offended by statements made by individual members, such as "I don't want whites in my org", then that WGLO member has every right to respond. If WGLO members feels that they must be "PC" in their response, then that's their perogative. If they choose not to start " a hue and cry about racism" then once again, that is that member's perogative. But please don't play games like BGLO members are always boo-hooing racism at certain threads or comments. If BGLO members are able to substantiate their claims or statements and some WGLO members can't, then who's fault is that? Who is really the one "boo-hooing"?
Exclusion is not right due to the coloe of someone's skin. But to quote Blackwatch
"if someone from a white glo says they do not want blacks in, what social/ historical basis do they base it on? Is it because of racism from blacks that the white orgs were founded? Are the white orgs priding themselves on combating racism and oppression? Or would the peron from the white org be speaking out of fear/ignorance/ and blatant racism? You see, the black glo's and the white glo's exist in different socio-historical contexts. What this means is that the orgs. operate differently and their actions take on different meanings in society. When a black person in a black glo talks about apprehension or conflict with whites in the orgs., it is not out of ignorance and racism, but out of an astute knowledge of the orgs'. history and purpose as well as the history of black people in America that is characterized by racism perpetrated and perpetuated by white people, and sustatined today by racists social structures. So institutions like black glo's, the black church, NAACP, Urban league, etc. are always conscious of the ever present threat of racism. That threat is represented by every white person (whether they claim to be or are actually "racist" or not)that we see. To sum up, Blacks in white glo's and whites in black glo's represent two different socio-historical and present day realities. That is why this thread is vital to the livelihood of our continued development in the black glo's. "