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Originally Posted by Jim_Hoegaarden
Ok, I'm a DU like Mystic, and seriously, there is a reason that Nationally DU sucks...but there is also a reason why my chapter doesn't, we have a pledge-ship that is difficult. Every fraternity has rules against hazing that is broken in some form or another. Hazing for hazing sake is stupid, but doing it for a reason does make sense.
LPIdelta, I don't care what you think. It does work, get over it.
Same goes for you AST.
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at post 133 we get to the point where just about every thread in rm gets to. hazing is hazing is hazing. good vs evil. what is the real point of it and what is the real definition of it.
however the line of hazing for hazing sake is stupid, but doing it for a reason does make {some} sense sure does seem to be a rather circular and self serving argument.
jm-get over it yourself. and perhaps read some of the postings not only here, as suggested, but elsewhere in rm thread. from my own observations, both here and personally, hazing can start out rather innocently, simple and mild with good intent and intentions. but it seems as if all too many times, all too often there is no one watching the watchers. and matters hit that rather slippery slope downward. and then it becomes a routine, and regimen. with reasons, rationals, and excuses. and excesses. and cover-ups. however, this is only my point of view. which, of course, is based on my observations and experiences. i know, all too well, that others have experienced life differently and see this issue differently and in a different light.