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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle
Just my take after re-reading your posts. 
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breathesgelatin essentially said what I've been trying to get across, but she put it more succinctly.
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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin
FWIW, I agree with preciousjeni. I think that for the most part insisting that allowing letters vs. crests is all a matter of semantics. As is "new member" vs. "pledge."
I think the salient point for me is that some chapter were doing things in the past like "making pledges earn their letters" by hazing and that's why disallowing letters for NMs was done away with. I've never heard of hazing justified by "making pledges earn their crest," so it's less of a hot-button issue.
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ETA: I'm calling the hazing laws and such - that have forced Greeks orgs to enact the logically inconsistent policies - "insane" and "ridiculous," not the policies themselves. If we weren't such a litigious society, I believe we could have much more successfully separated the true hazing from the organizational traditions. ALL Greeks are affected which is why I'm so concerned about it.