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Old 06-25-2008, 11:41 AM
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1. I was never trying to make this an argument but if you are going to post something like "her promotion is a way to get women to vote for McCain" especially since it was so obviously pointed out that he had nothing to do with it...then he has to prove it.
It's not a "provable" assertion - it's simply a theory or concept. In general, though, I agree with your point, but here I don't think it's super necessary.

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2. I wouldn't say it to you face to face? You don't think?? Ok...hehehe.....hint: Clark Kent isn't my offscreen name....
I'm not saying you'd be afraid to say it to my face, but rather that arguments of the sort don't make any sense there, and shouldn't here.

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3. Assume you are smart....well let's also assume that she is smart, that she has worked her ass off moving up the ranks for 33 years. Making her a 4 star general, I think is not just a gimmie.....
Like I said, I'm sure this is true - it doesn't automatically exclude the possibility of political shenanigans.

What if she was well qualified after 30 years, but there was no political expedience? Why weren't other qualified women put into this spot? We can't answer these questions, but it's an interesting concept, and not "inane" as you asserted.

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While you are busy beefing with me, if you did as I asked, you may have caught this at the end of the article:

"I am very honored but also very humbled today with this announcement," said Dunwoody. "I grew up in a family that didn't know what glass ceilings were. This nomination only reaffirms what I have known to be true about the military throughout my career ... that the doors continue to open for men and women in uniform."

The Army Materiel Command handles all material readiness for the Army. During her career, Dunwoody has been assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division, 10th Mountain Division and the Defense Logistics Agency. She served with the 82nd Airborne in Saudi Arabia during the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

She has been awarded the Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal, the Legion of Merit, the Meritorious Service Medal, the Army Commendation Medal, the Army Achievement Medal, Master Parachutist Badge and the Army Staff Identification Badge.

The first woman to become a general officer in the U.S. armed services was Brig. Gen. Anna Mae Hays, chief of the Army Nurse Corps, who achieved the rank in 1970 and retired the following year.

Elizabeth Hoisington, the director of the Women's Army Corps, was promoted to brigadier general immediately after Hays. She also retired the following year.

Maj. Gen. Jeanne M. Holm, the first director of Women in the Air Force, was the first woman to wear two stars, attaining the rank in 1973 and retiring two years later. In 1996, Marine Lt. Gen. Carol A. Mutter became the first woman to wear three stars. Mutter retired in 1999.

Currently, there are 57 active-duty women serving as generals or admirals, five of whom are lieutenant generals or vice admirals, the Navy's three-star rank, according to the Pentagon.


With all that she has accomplished and with so few women ever attaining the rank of General, me personally feels that it's a slap in the face to just simply assume that her appointment (again without evidence to prove it) was simply a political move.
OK - that's fine if you feel that way, but I think your outrage is misplaced (also, I'm not 'beefing' but rather disagreeing - this isn't personal), since no one said "it's only because she's a woman!" or "it's only because they needed a woman for political reasons!" (both of which would be a legitimate 'slap in the face'), but rather that the timing may be beneficial to one candidate, which naturally lead to speculation and skepticism about the timing, not the candidate.
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