[Taconicus]

Originally Posted by icelandelf

And how honorable you are acting. Double thumbs up for being a model representative.

First, there was an intervening post that apparently Fratitude doesn't have the courage of his convictions to even leave anonymously posted.

Second, this guy comes up and posts this sort of garbage about your society, and lying to everybody here, wouldn't you want to be sure to respond directly to that?

Look, his original post was a lie, and then he had to resort to his ham-handed personal attacks because he couldn't defend his positions at all.

And, obviously, this isn't the first time that this guy has been a problem. he's been all over the internet with his garbage, and has just landed here now.

Read carefully what he didn't respond to:

The whole system you describe: you've never seen large meetings of powerful alumni members, no meetings with chapters from all over. How about important measures politically forced through at some university; name one. Some exercise of power? Have you seen any of these things? None of it. I know you haven't seen these things, because I know they don't exist.

None of that stuff exists. I know it, he knows it, and he couldn't face admitting it here. He had to try to attack one person instead. He can't post a link to anything to back up his claims---cause there's nothing there.

There's no society like he wrote about, and he knows it. That's lying.

But he is comfortable as hell lying to everyone here, trying to make them think there is some powerful secret conspiracy out there.

So you have Fratitude; posts a whopping lie, then posts personal attacks, and then doesn't have the courage to stand by even those. Then, he lies about what that post contained, and doubles the personal attacks in the bargain.

And on the other hand you have Theta Nu Epsilon whose website is publically available and criticizable. And you have my posts here, which I don't hide, and which may be colorful, but at least match reality.

(By the way, Fratitude, you have your facts in your personal attacks all screwed up, too, but it's not worth correcting you.)

Theta Nu Epsilon is a legitimate society, it really exists, it has real chapters, it has a website, it is entitled to hold its head up in the public forum. People like Fratitude can't stand that. They believe it is a deep dark conspiracy. Part Bilderberger, part Davos. They're so committed to that that they will never give up the fantasy. I'll give you four to one odds that Fratitude will never, ever, to his dying day, realize what the nature of Theta Nu Epsilon is. I've seen it before. I've seen a man believe in it for 40 years, and have it destroy his life, his personal finances, his family, because he KNEW thet Theta Nu Epsilon had to be the secret conspiracy of all conspiracies, and would never believe anything else.

The people who are running this little boys club in Nebraska or wherever, they're running a con game. They're taking initiation fees and dues from students, telling them that they are going to become a part of Theta Nu Epsilon and it's a powerful society, and then after some paddling they get initiated into squat. It's a fraud. Why the administrators at the University of Nebraska allow it to go on, I don't know.

But those conned guys are cornered into doing the same to the people next year, just so they don't feel as screwed as they have been.

So this Fratitude guy comes here and tries to lie to everyone here about the 'powerful secret society' he belongs to --- and drag the name Theta Nu Epsilon in the mud in the process. Do I post strongly against that? You bet I do.