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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest
We are NOT secret societies. If we were, we damn sure wouldn't be serving the community. Many organizations have secrets or confidential information but that does not make them secret societies. I didn't even read the rest of your post because you started off wrong.
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Oh are you serious?

Ok then, I will correct myself and say "organizations with secrets" (although that sounds campy...but it's more accurate...if it matters so much). Delta Upsilon, founded in 1836 was the first "non-secret" fraternity and you may want to check out their website
http://www.deltau.org/ to see just how
they define that. I mean, if they pride themselves on being the "first" of something (and they predate my org by 150 years...) I will gladly accept their definition of what a "secret society" is. I do not think it's the definition you are putting out there (like Skull & Bones or something that is "underground"...I dunno). But it's not
that serious...I can rescind the remark.