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Originally Posted by Kevin
I don't know what you mean by "contesting," unless it's that I disagree with you. Your example of high school students on a forum dedicated to college greek life will be generally taken to mean that you're applying that situation to greek life -- in that you think that "supervision" (whatever that means) makes any hazing concerns evaporate.
That said, not every discomfort or injury which happens in the pledging process is hazing.
Also, the only way I know to cause an injury with a blindfold is to tie it too tight -- it's what you do while blindfolded that should count.
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1. I never said that supervision makes any hazing concerns evaporate. My ORIGINAL EXAMPLE was an illustration of how blindfolding is not necessarily something "bad". I was on your side.
2. I never said that every discomfort or injury is due to hazing. Let's say you blindfold your pledges, drive them around the block a few times, and bring them somewhere a half mile away. Your intent MAY be to have them work together to find their way home, but some of them may very well freak out. While some people may not say that the activity itself is hazing, what you have done may result in someone being terribly distraught at being somewhere they don't know, that they presume is far away, etc.
3. Blindfolding CAN cause injury because you are depriving someone of one of their senses. They may fall, walk into things, get scared, etc. It depends on the environment. Blindfolded in a closed room for ritual is very different than outside, open to traffic, strangers, etc. If you do something like this outside, you better make sure someone is monitoring the members/pledges, so that they don't end up injured, or worse. Even inside, esp if you are using candles, etc., I would think you would want someone watching the participants, or guide them.
Can you understand what I am saying now? If the point is trust, why would you not take any and every precaution to protect your soon-to-be brothers?