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Originally Posted by H0NEY1987
are there any national groups that are not incorporated. like any that belong to a national umbrella. such as the nic, or npc? even nalfo, or nmgc?
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Originally Posted by knight_shadow
I'm almost positive that the same can be said for the NIC fraternities.
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Granted, it withdrew from the NIC a few years ago, but I've already pointed out that, at least as of a few years ago, Kappa Sigma appears to have been unincorporated. I would not be surprised if there are other GLOs that follow the same pattern of being an association that has formed a seperate corporation as its foundation or to hold property.
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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin
I don't think most or even "a lot" of the NIC/NPC groups trace their heritage to "ancient" rituals. I know Kappa Sig does. I guess Chi-O does to some extent (correct me if I'm wrong). There are some groups that acknowledge their ties to freemasonry and you might call that "ancient". What other groups do though?
This has been discussed before, but I don't think any NIC/NPC GLO is a legitimate carry-down from some ancient ritual. Some may be reconstructions of ancient ritual, or more likely, inspired by ancient ritual. But not many claim to be the direct descendants of the former groups. Kappa Sig may be an exception - but I've always found those claims questionable, to be frank.
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Kappa Sigma is the only group, so far as I know, for which one sometimes see the claim of actually being a continuation of a pre-existing secret society, European or otherwise. (That is, unless one is going to consider Freemasonry's claim to date back to the building of Solomon's Temple.) GC's fraternity history and ritual expert, wptw (who posts all too infrequently -- yes, that's a page for you, wptw), has addressed the Kappa Sigma-Bologna connection before in other threads.
Many GLOs draw on Greek myths and mysteries or the lore of orders of chivalry for inspiration for their rituals and symbolism. Other than the KS claim sometimes seem, though, I don't know of any who would make any claim of actually tracing their existence to those mysteries or orders.