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*This got mixed up into the other thread, but I intended to post it here*
I don't know where to post this, but here is just as good a place as anywhere else I guess.
My son is a Boy Scout and a rep from the Order of the Arrow came to talk at his Boy Scout meeting because it was time for elections for OA. There was a video that was played where they talked about what Order of the Arrow is and about the Ordeal that the kids go through in order to join. During the Ordeal, they must sleep alone outdoors, go a full day without talking while doing service and then there is an initiation type ceremony. They said in this video, very specifically "This is not hazing and we do not haze. This is not like a fraternity initiation with hazing..."
This bothered me on two levels because 1) Everything they do that weekend would be considered hazing by most NIC groups and 2) How dare they imply that all fraternity initiations involve hazing?
Anyway, just wanted to vent with that.
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