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Originally Posted by violetpretty
Initiation: I would bet that the founders of every National GLO, and most locals, designed a beautiful, moving initiation ceremony that does not involve hazing.
which is why it is not a part of rituals designed by founders. As if being counter to the ideals of every GLO isn't enough, hazing is also illegal.
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I'm going to have to very respectfully disagree. We all like to believe that our rituals are as old as our organizations... and while some *elements* of them may be the same, I don't think it's all that uncommon for the rituals to change and be re-written based on the social and political climate. I think we romanticize our founders, but which of them actually knew what they were doing? How many just thought it would be fun to form a club that promised to be friends until death? How many made up a silly "initiation ritual" because they had heard about other organizations? I'm not saying that those rituals haven't come to mean more, but thats doesn't mean our founders started them that way. I've seen minutes from conventions in 1885 that ruled to ban hazing. Kudos to the convention for banning hazing, but what was going on before then in an organization less than decades old?