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Originally Posted by gee_ess

EW and others, what makes you think that fraternity men in Arkansas are all from "old money"? "Old Money" in Arkansas is a topic I do not think you can speak about considering your age and experience.

I didn't say that they are "all" from old money. In fact, I made no references to anything about old money regarding private schools. Please actually read. I said the Delta is where old money can be found. Which is true. Highland Park is also a good place.

I said:

In terms of quality, it comes from the private schools in Dallas, Memphis and Little Rock aaaand the Delta. Which has no private schools, but has some old money (and some no money at all) schools like DeWitt, Stuttgart, Gillette, some Pine Bluff and mostly towns that are barely on the map.

Paraphrased: The majority of the good fraternity men come from private schools in Dallas, Memphis and Little Rock. The Delta is a good place as well, but it doesn't have private schools (it has a few, Lee Academy for one but that's a school of like 20 people). While it doesn't have private schools, it does have some old money mostly from cotton farming and so forth. Although, the University of Arkansas' fraternity systems valuation of Southeastern Arkansas guys is a bit higher than it should be, in my opinion.

Your comments regarding geographical distribution of members MIGHT be more accurate, but to make sweeping generalizations regarding financial status is wrong. Private school does not equal old money.

You made the generalization, not I.

Speaking of "old money" in the South I'm always curious to know if you consider them the ones who originally were large landholders BEFORE the Civil War or the Yankee carpetbaggers who came down and bought up all the land for back-taxes? Because, many of the true Southern families lost all/most their land/money after the war.

edit: I'm not going to discuss the definition of old money. It's not pertinent to the topic whatsoever. I wrote out a big long thing, but in the end it's not worth it.

How about we continue with what we're talking about...

We get great pledges from the Pensacola area. Tampa and Orlando can produce really solid guys too.

Pensacola seems like a solid place to rush having met a few of the locals...I'm still iffy on Tampa and Orlando, but I know there are still good areas throughout Florida, just getting scarcer it seems. Part of the reason I put Florida so low.

What's funny is that no one ever says "blah blah fraternity, the one no one wants to join". Or the like

That's why it drives me nuts that people want this thread shut down. As long as nobody gets us off topic, this is easily a very civil thread.