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Originally posted by Cloud9
See, this is why people have bad perceptions of greeks. Whenever a problem is brought to light, instead of discussing solutions, everyone just denies that it exists. I am by no means "dissing" greek life anywhere. All I'm saying is that in certain groups hazing does exist, and I'm sure that you all know of groups at your schools that have had the same system. And again, they vary in "intensity" or whatever you want to call it. What my question to you all is, what have you found the results to be? It's an honest curious question. All legal issues aside, do you find that hazing in any form has positive or negative results after crossing? For my part, I would definitely report this group, but I don't really want to destroy their organization, which would most likely occur because NYU REALLY doesn't like greeks at all. And they're not necessarily bad people, they're following quidelines that have probably been in place for years...and that is my other question---how can you encourage change in pledging procedures without attacking other groups? Or is there just nothing to be done about it? Because really, when incidents like the fighting occur, it turns the University's attention on the entire greek community, and not in a positive way. Trust me, they're really out to get us! Anyway, that's all I really wanted to know, sorry if I put it in an antagonistic way, I don't mean to attack anyone, it was late and I was in a bad mood at the time I wrote my other posts. I really encourage any constructive responses you might have!
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Cloud9, correct me if I'm wrong here, but it is my understanding that there is no Panhellenic Council at NYU. In fact, the majority of sororities on campus are local organizations, which means that they do not have to follow the same set of rules about hazing that National organizations do. Because they aren't governed by National Headquarters, they are able to "get away" (for lack of a better term) with things that NPC sororities cannot, and that is probably why the hazing has continued. An NPC sorority would have been severely reprimanded by their HQ if hazing was going on and had been brought to the school or the GLO's attention.
I'm not saying that local sororities are "bad" -- just that they aren't required to follow the same strict no-hazing policies that national sororities are, and that's why some of them go too far when pledging new girls. Some national organizations have chapters that have gone "too far" as well, however, it is more likely that they will be caught because they have HQ watching over them, whereas the locals do not. Hope this helps a little. It's just important to remember that not all groups are the same, and there are some very big differences between local and national GLO's that sometimes are not realized by the general public.