[jon1856]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I think what you're trying to say is look to the laws of the state where you are, your GLO's policies and your sheltering institution's policies (as well as whatever it was you seemed to be quoting from), and it should be rather clear what constitutes hazing. I think that often that it is the case (although the "if you have to ask if it's hazing, it probably is" test is a really bad test to apply to criminal law). I know my fraternity's hazing policies shouldn't leave much doubt in anyone's mind as to what would and wouldn't constitute hazing. Such broad statements simply cannot be made with any real accuracy or helpfulness.

That's a different discussion, however, from what got started here -- aeBOt's simple, broad assertion that "[t]echnically, it is hazing, because the house had alcohol available to the pledges. That constitutes as hazing in and of itself." As already noted, whether merely having alcohol available to pledges constitutes hazing would depend on local laws and the specific policies of the applicable GLO and sheltering institution.

Thanks for policing my late night rant.