[33girl]

Lexi:

I think you are missing the point of this thread.

Many people - old, young, whatever - do not consider a lot of the activities deemed "illegal" by NPC as hazing. That's why the thread is called "hazing oversensitivity." I don't think you'll find anyone (including myself) who thinks beatings, forced drinking or mental torture are defensible. Those are definitely hazing, by any definition. And there is no such thing as "good" hazing. But I personally am very offended to hear the interviews, interaction with other Greeks, and pledge class activities - things that definitely "fill[ed] my days with satisfying activity", in the words of ASA's Creed - referred to as hazing. That is pledging. I never felt disgraced, demeaned or stressed at any time in my pledge program, and I resent someone telling me that I should have.

My question is, do YOU think these activities are hazing? Not what does KD nationals think, what does NPC think, what do you, Lexi, think? If you had joined KD 10 years ago and interviews and a scavenger hunt were part of your program, approved by nationals, would you have felt hazed?

I am not saying everything was roses and daisies back in the day - far from it. We DID have a few chapters on our campus who hazed like hell and the smart people stayed away from them. But when I apply those famous four questions on "is it hazing?" (would you do it in front of your mom, does it have a purpose, etc etc) to my pledge program, sorry to disappoint everyone, but it wasn't. The chapters who do haze should have been prosecuted in the first place so the rest of us don't have to suffer. It's like drunk driving or gun control laws - it doesn't help to pass stricter ones when the ones we have aren't enforced to begin with. It just gets the people who were following the laws caught in the undertow because the laws have changed.