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Originally posted by h2oot
I'm not as sympathetic as Alphasig to characterizing women like you have. I admit there are some girls who may fit your categorization, just like there may be one or two guys of your ilk who are actually mature and could possibly possess some communication skills.
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Don't roll the guy like this - you can't play both sides. You deny the antecedent, then pop off something completely analogous and assert it as true - and then you wonder why he's frustrated? I'm not particularly sympathetic to this sort of editorialization on your part.
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Originally posted by h2oot
I have no idea of your circumstances, but try to interact with girls away from clubs or other situations where people of both sexes shift into a players mode. If you want them to appreciate who you are, you have to relate to them in a way that your positive virtues show through. For example, work with some of the girls one on one by helping in one of the philanthropy projects
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OK, well this is actually fairly solid advice - but it doesn't really address the OP. One of his stated problems was that girls don't want to appreciate the 'positive virtues' of potential dating prospects - that's part of his frustration. Now, whether or not this is a valid generalization on his part is another argument - but it's subjective, and so perception quickly becomes reality, right?
I wish I could help you more, PKTSU - I think that nearly every guy here can empathize in some way, and most of the girls can come up with similar examples from the other side. That's the biggest problem and simultaneously the biggest draw of relationships - people are dynamic, and they'll never cease to amaze and shock you with the things they'll do, say, or believe.
All I can say is, just keep on - don't sell the farm b/c that's what you think women will respond to. It's frustrating, i know, but it's better than selling yourself out.