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JAM, I know what you mean. While there is a difference between being being shy or being into some game, there comes a point (and it happens pretty quickly for me), that I just don't care.

There was a movie with Jeff Bridges and Barbara Streisand where he fumbled with a relationship because of shyness and living in his head. When he realized he was getting dumped by this girl who was tired of waiting for him to do SOMETHING/ANYTHING. Then, he finally asked, as she was exiting: "Can we still get together sometime?" Her reply: Why?"

I think the shy-guy routine is a game for some guys. They hide behind it and want the girl to make the first move. In many cases the girl leaves a hint about as obvious as "drop the hankie". If the guy doesn't move on that que, then its time for me to move on.