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I only said that this group used to be A E Phi so people would not think they were an A E Phi interest group (I wouldn't even WATCH MTV if I was an interest group trying to get a charter these days, LOL). I agree with Eirene, I don't think we should immediately bash SAEP because they happen to be local, formerly national. There are lots of reasons why national groups become local and they DO NOT all have to do with disciplinary measures. Many of the sororities at Dartmouth (for one) went local on their own, not because they were disciplined or "bad" chapters.

What I am really surprised about is that UC Davis - and isn't Davis the town where you aren't allowed to smoke - is letting them go through with it. My personal thought is that they are setting these girls (and the Greek system there) up for a fall by letting them do it.

Optimist - it is a "conference" not really a governing body. They have agreements for things that involve more than one group participating (like rush and expansion) but cannot make rules for the individual groups. Kind of like - all the stores at the mall can set their own prices and decide what they are going to sell, but they all have to follow the mall management's opening and closing hours and signage limits, etc.

showstopper_1908 - you're absolutely right! This past season I think Mike wore a Theta Chi t-shirt in every episode. However, they probably could not have filmed Mike at his fraternity house if he went back to visit or at a fraternity party. Basically people can participate as individuals but a chapter as a whole cannot.