[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

But your assertion is that gangs are doing the copying. Using your argument above you would have to include gangs from their beginnings also. Did you see the movie Gangs of New York? And of course you know about the Mafia.

Again though my point is you can't generalize--gangs had handsigns and calls before BGLOs. And some of the BGLO signs do resemble some gang signs.

What about the GLO's that came before us and other clubs/organizations? So by no means am I saying that BGLO's came up with these expressions. I think these things can be found among many different orgs/clubs in the U.S. and around the world. What about the Black community and the peace sign? What about the Black Panthers throwing up the Black fist? The point is that handsigns/symbols can be found among all kinds of clubs and organizations. The gangs copied from others and so did we...doesn't matter who did so first. I just hate it when people try to act like it's gangs that invented them and we copied from them directly because I know that isn't true...gangs didn't invent them and we didn't copy from them.