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Originally Posted by DGTess

This assumption causes many organizations to become overly risk-averse.

Punishment is not necessarily hazing. When you set a standard, and inform the affected members of the consequences of failing to meet that standard, you're teaching responsibility.

Now, of course that consequence is not going to be demeaning, degrading, or embarrassing. (And if a pledge believes that helping to clean a fraternity house is beneath him, that tells you something about his character.)

(Donning flame-proof suit).

I totally agree. LOL at the flame-proof suit.