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Old 02-13-2002, 08:52 PM
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Back up the logic wagon here, ace - let's think about things a little more thoroughly . . .

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Originally posted by Alias23
Already eliminated:

1. They can't relate
2. It would feel uncomfortable
3. They belong with thier own kind
4. It's against the founding principles of our organization
5. It's our right to exclude who we want
6. My mother/pappy would roll over in his/her grave (kidding)

But seriously, what makes them different and what reason could you give?
Well let's break it down to a more basic level -

Your Question (VERBATIM):

Somebody please give me one reason why it's ok to exclude based on gender, but not by race. What line of reasoning can be used to justify not letting someone into an organization because of thier gender, but hasn't and can't be used to justify excluding someone because of race?

Hmm . . . that's easy. What's the difference between a white male, and a black male?

Well . . . from the most basic physiological sense of things, not a lot. Let's take that to the limit as we approach the point of pragmatic thought, and say - Nothing.

Now, I'm not saying there aren't well-defined cultural differences between people of different races, creeds, ethnic backgrounds, and geographic location - merely that from an idealistic standpoint, a man is a man.

Contrast this with women - I think you see what I'm going for. There are definite, far-reaching, and clear physiological differences between men and women.

From most any rational moral standpoint, there's no basis for differentiation between different races in terms of basic needs - however, since there are physical differences between the sexes, we can easily see that there will be obvious differences in meeting the needs of each.

Looking at this, I have no problem with allowing differentiation based on sex - hell, even public bathrooms are differentiated by sex . . . and for this very reason. No doubt exists in my mind that fraternity and sorority life has split in order to more directly tailor the experience to each sex individually, and I'm sure you'll find that what is gleaned from the experience is different for both.

Personally, I think your argument is a complete strawman anyway - but in light of reasonable argument, here you are.
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